zombies are real!

[Man in Black]

click pic for proof that zombies are real!

[zenobia]

you caught me again!!


kidding but I was hoping to find the story of that woman - american I guess - who claimed to be a real zombie, I saw a picture of her once... I can't remember the story

[blackcat]

WOW! I would really be interested in reading about her. Maybe I can kill her LOL.

[Man in Black]

[zenobia]

Jul 28, 2008 18:16:17 GMT -5 blackcat said:

WOW! I would really be interested in reading about her. Maybe I can kill her LOL.

Quoting a voodoo priest: You cant kill what's already dead

muahahahahah

So I finnaly found the woman I was talking about



Felicia Felix Mentor
People say she was a real dead living woman, but others say this is just a case of schizophrenia.

What do you believe?


Early in the morning of 24 October, 1936, in the village of Ennery located in the foothills of the Puylboreau mountains near Cap-Haitien, the entire population was aroused into a tumultuous and frenzied consternation when a woman appeared in the streets clad in ragged clothes. She was old, feeble, and stupefied. Her skin was pale and wrinkled and looked like the scales of a fish.

From all appearances, she had been suffering from eye disease for a long time. Her eye-lashes had almost fallen out ;. she could not bear the glare of sunlight and, to protect her eyes, she had covered her face with a dark dirty rag. This added to the curiosity and superstitious awe of the people.

A mass hysteria swept through the entire village. Crowds gathered around to see that strange woman. People began to ask questions, to cast suspicions, and to try to identify her with various people who were known to be dead long ago.

One of the families living near Ennery, known as the Mentors, noticed that she bore a close resemblance to one of their members. From that day onward people began to call the strange woman by the name of Felicia Felix Mentor. The Mentors took her to their family home, fed her, and gave her comfortable quarters.

She remained in the Mentor's home for a few days until the people removed her to a government hospital. She was in the hospital when, a few weeks after, I was sent from the Public Health Department to make an official study of the strange case which by that time was known all over Haiti.

Felicia Felix Mentor, the alleged Zombi under discussion, was not able to give me any information about her name, her age, her birthplace, where she had been previously, where shC, was going, and how she happened to be in the hospital. All her answers were unintelligible and irrelevant.

Her occasional outbursts of laughter were devoid of emotion, and very frequently she spoke of herself in either the first or the third person without any sense of discrimination. She had lost all sense of time and was quite indifferent to the world of things around her.

Her height was 5 feet 2 inches, and she weighed 90 pounds. She looked like a woman about 60 years old; but after being treated in the asylum for some time under my care, she rejuvenated and looked like a woman of 50.

The evidence which induced the Mentors at first to believe that the strange woman was the member of their family who died long ago became untenable in the light of a scientific study of the case.

At first they had based their belief on the fact that the woman was lame. Before the real Felicia Felix Mentor died, she was lame as a result of a fracture of her left leg.

Her physical appearance and lameness in addition to the deep belief in the country that sometimes the dead come back to life, induced the Mentors to believe that the strange woman was indeed their late sister Felicia.

I made an X-ray examination of both legs at the Central Hospital in Port-au-Prince. There was no evidence of a fracture and the lameness could therefore be attributed to muscular weakness due to undernourishment. This may be said to be the cause since, after she had a normal diet for two months, the lameness disappeared. She also gained weight.

This is evidently a case of schizophrenia and gives us an idea of how cases of similar nature are likely to arouse mass hysteria in a culture where the common people do not usually understand the scientific basis of many natural events which occur in their daily, life.

The case under discussion was reported by Miss Zora Neale Hurston in her book Tell My Horse, in which she stated emphatically ` I know that there are Zombis in `Haiti. People have been called back. from the dead.' This American writer stated specifically that she came back from Haiti with no doubt in regard to popular belief of the Zombi pseudo-science.

In her book, the author described the Felicia Felix Mentor incident as a typical case of a Zombi. Evidently she got her information from the simple village folk, whose minds were conditioned to believing the real existence of a superhuman phenomenon. Miss Hurston herself, unfortunately, did not go beyond the mass hysteria to verify her information, nor in any way attempt to make a scientific explanation of the case.

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Dr, Mars is a Professor of Psychiatry at the School of Medicine and of Social Psychology at the Institute of Ethnology, Port-au-Prince, in the Republic of Haiti, a Member of the Societe Medico-Psychologique of Paris, a Government Public Health Officer now visiting the United States on leave of absence, and at present a Guest-Professor of Social Psychiatry at Fisk University, Nashville, Tennessee.

[BellaSwan]

hmmm....

[Man in Black]

Does anybody remember that movie based loosely on this stuff? The Serpent and the Rainbow. The film was kind of dumb but the book of the same name it came from, by [[Wade Davis]], is all about the use of powders made with [[tetrodotoxin]] that is said to induce a death like state. People were actually buried alive because of the drug. There are some messed up people on this planet

[BellaSwan]

Eww. Doesn't sound like I want to watch it OR read it.

[zenobia]

I read about that guy too

"Stories of zombies originated in the Afro-Caribbean spiritual belief system of Vodou.

They are some who has been raised from the grave by real voodoo priest, often used as slave labour for the rest of their un-natural life. Zombies can move, eat, hear and speak, but they have no memory and no insight into their condition. There have been legends about zombies for centuries, but it was only in 1980 that a real-life case of Clavirvius Narcisse was so documented.

According to reports, Clairvius was poisoned with a mixture of various natural poisons to simulate death. The instigator of the poisoning was alleged to be his brother, with whom he had quarreled over land. After his "death" and subsequent burial on May 2, 1962 his body was recovered and he was given a paste made from datura which at certain doses has a hallucinogenic effect and can cause memory loss.

His new 'master', a bokor (sorceror), then forced him, alongside many other zombie slaves, to work on a sugar plantation until the master's death in 1964. When the bokor died, and regular doses of the narcotic ceased, he eventually regained sanity (unlike many others who had suffered brain damage from being buried alive) and returned to his family after some time, though only after finding his brother had died.

Narcisse's story was popularized in the book The Serpent and the Rainbow by Wade Davis, who is currently an "explorer in residence" for National Geographic. Although many are critical and suspicious of Mr. Davis' work, his hypothesis that Clairvius Narcisse was drugged with a neurotoxin that simulates death, is scientifically possible."

[Man in Black]

Basically, I suppose, real Zombies are actually people who are put into a deathlike state... mostly for the purpose of slavery. Where as fictional Zombies are usually dead that get up and lumber around with their arms out going "uuuunnnnngggggghhhh."

[zenobia]

Cool! you've just defined it: wander & "uuuuuunnnnngggggghhh" lol

[Man in Black]

Could be a band name huh?

The Wander and Uuuuuugghs

[zenobia]

;D cool