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Post by Man in Black on Aug 2, 2008 12:16:32 GMT -5
Here is a silly (in my opinion) Yahoo Music Article accusing several bands, such as [[The Killers]] and [[Radiohead]], of stealing from [[U2]]. It even goes so far as to call [[Coldplay]] - U2 with a piano. I think that there's no big deal. Musicians have been copying styles since... well forever. Coldplay Where would rock music really be with out [[The Beatles]], [[Brian Wilson]], [[Elvis]] and many other pioneers. For me as long as the songs are good and nothing has been actually copied exactly then what's the big deal? What do you think? Should we be mad because aspects of some music shows up in other people's work? Where would they all really be without these guys? |
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Post by BellaSwan on Aug 3, 2008 0:15:09 GMT -5
Um, no. Like you said, artists influence other artists. And anyway, that's why there's genres, that's why rappers form lables and colloborate on each others' albums, that's why George Clinton at one time put out albums of his songs as samples for others.
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Post by Jason on Dec 1, 2009 18:29:21 GMT -5
Where would these guys be..  Without THIS guy!!  Not a lot of people know this, but The Beatles' biggest influence in music was Buddy Holly! They even named their band after his band! Crickets - Beatles! I'm not the biggest fan of U2, but Coldplay does sound pretty similar. I haven't seen anything that says they pulled music right of the butt of U2.  So because they use a piano, they're copying U2? And if they use a fiddle they'll be ripping off the Charlie Daniels Band, too? |
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Post by Man in Black on Dec 2, 2009 14:15:29 GMT -5
Crickets - Beatles!
I did actually know that... but I'm weird and full of many useless facts lol...
Another Buddy Holly fact that a lot of people don't know (Jason probably does and so does Bella) Waylon Jennings played with Holly and was about to board that ill-fated plane that killed Holly, The Big Bopper and Ritchie Valens... Waylon gave up his seat trying to be nice because the flight was too full. He had a hard time dealing with it and for a long time blamed himself. So, some of the music died that night, but not all of it... I have thoroughly enjoyed me some Waylon Jennings and still do... and Waylon where ever you are... it wasn't your fault, stuff just happens.
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Post by Jason on Dec 2, 2009 17:59:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I have read about that quite a bit.
If I remember correctly, Buddy was feeling sick and Waylon offered his seat to Holly and took the bus. Either way, the loss would be just as huge. It's a shame what happened.
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Post by Man in Black on Dec 3, 2009 2:10:50 GMT -5
Do you know if Waylon was actually a member of the Crickets at that time or just touring with Holly?
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Post by Jason on Dec 3, 2009 17:50:24 GMT -5
I don't believe he was with the Crickets. I could be wrong though. I'd have to talk to my dad about it. He knows more about Buddy Holly than darn near anyone. |
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Post by Man in Black on Dec 4, 2009 0:48:29 GMT -5
That's what I was thinking, all I've ever heard was that Jennings was playing with them on the road, but I've never heard anyone say that he was a Cricket. What an interesting road through a career for Waylon - from playing with some of the greatest pop/rockers of all time to becoming a hardcore country outlaw. We've had La Bamba, now we need Shooter Jennings to play his dad in that story. Waylon  Shooter (did play Waylon in Walk the Line)  |
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Post by Jason on Dec 4, 2009 21:10:28 GMT -5
I haven't seen Walk the Line. Is it good?
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Post by Man in Black on Dec 9, 2009 2:47:37 GMT -5
For what it is, it's amazing. I'm not the biggest drama fan, but Johnny Cash is a fascinating subject for sure and Joaquin Phoenix pretty much becomes Cash. From what I've heard it's historically accurate which made it even better to me. Phoenix learned to play the guitar for the film and he and Reese Witherspoon did the music. I'm picking it up as soon as it is released on blu-ray.
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Post by Jason on Dec 9, 2009 17:29:39 GMT -5
I felt the same way about the Doors movie. The only flaw, was the Ray Manzarek said himself that the film wasn't very accurate to their personal lives.
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Post by Man in Black on Dec 10, 2009 0:57:30 GMT -5
I saw the doors movie. I liked it pretty well, but I suspected that there was a lot of Hollywood in it as opposed to facts. Val Kilmer certainly made a great Morrison to me. I am biased though as he is one of my favorite actors. Kind of a sad movie too. I wish he could have stayed healthy and lived a long life. Think of the music and lyrics we didn't get to witness.
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Post by Jason on Dec 10, 2009 1:17:11 GMT -5
I hadn't seen many of Kilmer's movie, but when I first saw his performance in the Doors, I was blown away. I can't believe that he performed some of the songs in the movie. He did a fantastic job.
It always bugs me that we'll never know what the Doors could've produced if Morrison stayed healthy. They were only in the music scene for four years and completely shed a new light on my perspective of music.
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Post by Man in Black on Dec 10, 2009 20:12:49 GMT -5
Have you ever seen Kilmer's remake of The Saint? He did an awesome job on that one. His disguises reminded me a lot of the ones in Fletch Lives... except more serious. |
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Post by Jason on Dec 10, 2009 23:44:53 GMT -5
Haha. No, I haven't seen many of Kilmer's movies. But I've heard some good things about The Saint. I don't think I've ever seen it on the shelves anywhere.
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